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Re: Question Geant4 in Windows without Cygwin (Joel Long)
Re: None Re: Geant4 in Windows without Cygwin (Joseph Perl)
Date: 27 Jun, 2011
From: Joel Long <Joel Long>

On Sun, 26 Jun 2011 01:59:47 GMT, Joseph Perl wrote:
> Hi Joe,
> 
> Sounds like a nice solution for your users. You are of course welcome to
> share this solution with others.
> 
> If what you're asking is whether the Geant4 collaboration would adopt
> such an installation system as an officially supported option or
> officially recommend it to others, then there are larger issues.
> 
> For the visualization options, it would indeed need to support the full
> set of drivers that we otherwise support on Windows.
> 
> But beyond that comes the question of how this solution integrates into
> Geant4's overall plan for installation, which is moving towards cmake,
> and the question of what level of commitment you would be able to make
> going forwards. Any solution that we recommend has to be supported not
> just for the current release but for other releases for the forseeable
> future. If you and Sandia are interested in supporting this solution
> long term (testing, evolving, etc.), it becomes more valuable to all of
> us.
> 
> We certainly do need additional windows installation expertise in our
> collaboration and would be interested to bring experts such as yourself
> into the collaboration.
> 
> Joseph
> 

Hi Joseph,

Thanks for your reply. I will see if I can get permission to post my code somewhere for download by anyone who wants to.

At the moment, it is a rather hackish - functional, but not as organized or thorough as the standard build process. I may work to clean it up some in the future, but in any case, what I have read about cmake indicates it is potentially a much better solution than the use of a batch-based build system, as long as there are eventual plans to exploit it to create a Windows-native install/build system that does not require Cygwin. (Watching life-long Windows users trying to function in a pseudo-unix environment is deeply painful, and not necessary.)

I would love to see Sandia become involved in the Geant4 collaboration. It would be beneficial for all parties, particularly with the growing interest in Geant4 here. Unfortunately, those sorts of decisions are way above my level.

As a side note, my knowledge of the Windows environment is not so much "expertise" as "bare proficiency". I work in Unix (well, MacOS) whenever possible - it has a vastly superior toolset - but most of the rest of my team has no Unix knowledge, so I learned what I needed to get them running.

I hope that Sandia will have increasing involvement in the Geant4 community as time goes on.

Thanks, Joel Long

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