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Dear All,

I will be at the meeting, but would like to put on record a few comments 
for those who will not attend:


I agree that the report will have more impact if it is short. The survey
should definely be rephrased to avoid questions that bias the response,
and we should also keep in mind the negative impact the report could have
if it starts by only criticising the current system.

The report should note (end of part III) that ATLAS and CMS have already
discussed their strategy for signing papers, and have both come to the
conclusion that all authors will sign on an equal basis. Whether the names 
are explicitly printed on each paper is a separate question.

My one conversation with a representative of Eur Phys J C lead me to 
understand they would NOT be opposed to printing a full author list, if 
that was our wish. If the full list were not to be printed, but just 
stored in electronic form, they would like to have control of this list 
rather than point to an external website they could not guarantee. 

Personally, I see there's a real risk of demotivating people who are
putting a lot of effort into detector construction, core software etc. in
the pre data-taking phase, if they're given the impression that only the
people doing the final stages of analysis are the ones to be given credit.
This is mentioned at the end of section IV. I think it's a real issue,
given that we are not in a position to employ teams of professional
detector builders. There is already an element of resentment of people
wanting to join the collaboration at the last minute to "do physics"
without putting in the ground work.

Regarding the accelerator people, at CERN there's a clear division between
those who operate the machine, and a number of separate experiments using
that machine. (This is less clear at eg. SLC with just one experiment.) A
few papers really rely on the machine-experiment interface, and are signed
by people from both communities, for example machine performance papers
(needing input from the experiments) and papers describing the beam energy 
calibration (fundamental input to Z, W mass/width at LEP).

I think we give the "consortia" scheme too much prominance. The Belle
scheme is an alternative that has been tried and reasonably successful. (I
could imagine ATLAS/CMS adopting such a scheme after the first few years,
for example). The consortia idea is just one possible way of dividing up 
the collaboration to achieve in a somewhat artificial way a reduced 
authorship.

Talk to some of you later,

Pippa.



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