LIGO and SLOAN authroship practices

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Dear Colleagues!

Here is a brief summary of my yesterday presentation on LIGO and SLOAN
authorship rules.

1. LIGO is Laser Interferometer Gravitational Wave Observatory, has 2
sites (Hanford and Livingston) with 4km interferometers. LSC (LIGO
Scientific Collaboration) is formed to operate and analyse data from LIGO.
a) LSC consists of 41 Universities and ~400 participants;
b) authorship rules are: "The author list of the scientific publication of
LIGO... will include all members of the LIGO Scientific Collaboration with
rights to the LIGO data. The author list will be alphabetical and will
include the engineers who contributed in an important way to design,
construction...";
c) technical papers - authors those who are directly involved only;
d) up to now (recently started data taking) there are 8 publications with
~400 authors each.

2. SDSS is Sloan Digital Sky Survey goal is to map 1/4 of the Northern sky
with detailed information on 100 million stars. SDSS has optical
telescope in New Mexico with CCD cameras to map the sky.
a) SDSS consists of 14 Universities and ~200 PhD members;
b) Collaboration has two lists: 1. "Collaboration" 2. "Builders".
c) There are 4 types of publications (with different authorship rules):
scientific publication (see below for rules), data release papers (SDSS
make all data at some point available to public) - all collaborators and
"builders" are co-authors, technical papers (those who directly involved),
other publications based on public SDSS data (require reference to SDSS
data);
d) rules for scientific publications: those who are directly involved in
the analysis and any "builders" who wants to be on the list. Primary
authors (no limit, as many as needed) are listed first, then the rest in
alphabetical order;
e) Many scientific publications been published as of today (100+). Typical
number of authors per paper is ~30-50 (~20f the Collaboration). From
looking on authors list looks like not too many "builders" are asking to
be included, rather lists are based on "groups" with similar physics
interests formed in the Collaboration.

I am looking for contacts in other fields, like genetics and space.

Cheers,
Dmitri.

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